Odds and Ends, Thoughts and Questions, from this past week in hockey –
Just so there’s no confusion when I’m spewing my bias, I am a fan of the Winnipeg Jets, Arizona Coyotes, Manitoba Moose, Winnipeg Ice, and all Team Canada Hockey teams.
I am NOT a fan of Gary Bettman or as I call him, Count Chocula. I am a big believer in the 7Ps. You’ve been warned.
1. Jets: The Winnipeg Jets have released their protected list for the Seattle Kraken expansion draft on Wednesday night. Discuss amongst yourselves.
Forwards:
- Blake Wheeler
- Mark Scheifele
- Kyle Connor
- Nikolaj Ehlers
- Pierre-Luc Dubois
- Andrew Copp
- Adam Lowry
Defencemen:
- Josh Morrissey
- Neal Pionk
- Logan Stanley
Goalie:
- Connor Hellebuyck
POLL QUESTION:
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2. Jets: Until Seattle actually drafts on Wednesday we will not know who we will lose and what type of side deal (if any) was in place, so why are people freaking out?
Poll Question: Should or did Kevin Cheveldayoff cut a deal with Seattle GM Ron Francis so the Jets don’t lose a player off their roster in the expansion draft?
In the 2017 Vegas expansion draft the Jets and Vegas cut a deal where the Golden Knights would select Chris Thorburn’s expiring contract. In the deal they flip-flopped 1st rounders with Winnipeg acquiring the 24th pick (from Vegas, from Columbus) in the 2017 NHL Draft in exchange for the 13th pick in the 2017 NHL Draft, and the Jets third-round selection in 2019.
FYI: If the Jets don’t cut this deal with Vegas they might have taken Nick Suzuki instead of trading down and getting Kristian Vesalainen. It’s too early to call this deal but the early returns certainly favour Suzuki.
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3. Jets: After looking at the other protection lists I’m betting that Seattle selects Mason Appleton from the Jets.
4. NHL: FYI – Offer Sheet (AAV) Compensation:
- $1,395,053 or below: None
- Over $1,395,053 to $2,113,716: 3rd round pick
- Over $2,113,716 to $4,227,437: 2nd round pick
- Over $4,227,437 to $6,341,152: 1st, 3rd round picks
- Over $6,341,152 to $8,454,871: 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks
- Over $8,454,871 to $10,568,589: (2) 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks
- Over $10,568,589: (4) 1st round picks
5. Jets: Gary Suter was bought out by the Minnesota Wild and if I’m Chevy I’m all over him. At 36-years-old he still has lots of hockey left in him. He is a much better option than Derek Forbort or Tucker Poolman in my opinion. It has been reported that he doesn’t want to play in Canada but maybe the Minnesota Mafia on the Jets roster can convince him.
6. NHL: Reports are that pending UFA Phillip Danault is looking for north of 5 mil a year for six years. Any GM that gives Phillip Danault $5,000,000 for six years should be INSTANTLY fired. Now in saying that most GMs would have to run a deal like that somewhere up the food chain and the person approving that deal should be fired too and if that somebody is the owner he shouldn’t be involved in hockey decisions.
7. Jets: Jets fans obsessing about losing a player in the expansion draft is like watching a bad reality show. We’re not losing KC or Scheif or Nik or PLD or Helle so relax for crying out loud. Take a deep breath.
8. Jets: I was wondering about this at the time.
I didn’t understand the rush to extend Lowry when they did …. they could have waited until after the draft and protected one more guy unless the plan was to tempt Seattle with Appleton to keep DeMelo and Stanley
— MoTown Curmudgeon (@WpgSportsTalk) July 18, 2021
9. NHL: In case you were wondering. This is what the Seattle Kraken’s minimum requirements are for Wednesday night’s expansion draft.
- The Kraken must select at least 20 players under contract for next season.
- The contracts for these 20 players must be at least $48,900,000.
10. Jets: Although I like Dylan DeMelo, Mason Appleton, and Logan Stanley I lived through losing Anders Hedberg, and Ulf Nilsson, then Rich Preston, Terry Ruskowsi, Paul MacKinnon, Kent Nilsson etc, and then a whole NHL team moving to Phoenix so I’m not going to lose ONE MOMENT of sleep losing one of these guys to Seattle
11. Jets: I hope the Winnipeg Jets don’t turn good prospects like Ville Heinola, Dylan Samberg, or David Gustafsson into diminishing assets like they did with Sami Niku and Jack Roslovic. Prospect currency is valuable so you need to make decisions on them while they still have value. Chevy has waited to long with Sami Niku and he sold low with Jack Roslovic. Based on Paul Maurice’s season ending presser it looks like there is no way Ville Heinola, Logan Stanley, or Dylan Samberg will all be in the NHL together any time soon. I hope we don’t end up giving one or two of them away for squat.
12. NHL: Key dates. Times a MB time.
- July 17: NHL teams must submit expansion lists to NHL by 4 pm.
- July 17: Trade freeze begins at 2 PM.
- July 18: NHL will deliver expansion lists by 9 am, likely made public around that time.
- July 18: Seattle can begin “interviewing” impending UFA/RFA’s from teams at this time.
- July 21: Seattle must submit it draft selections to the NHL by 9 am.
- July 21: 2021 NHL Expansion Draft at 7 pm.
- July 22: Trade freeze is lifted at noon.
- July 23: Round 1 of the 2021 NHL Draft at 7 pm.
- July 24: Rounds 2-7 of the 2021 NHL Draft at 10 pm.
- July 27: Qualifying offers due to restricted free agents.
- July 28: Free agency opens at 11 am.
13. Jets: Are Paul Maurice’s or Kevin Cheveldayoff’s jobs in jeopardy?
After the first round sweep of Edmonton it looked like Pomo and Chevy were safe.
After being swept in the second by Montreal, Pomo and Chevy are back under the microscope.
Now Chevy and Pomo are both under scrutiny for the Seattle expansion protection list.
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14. NHL: Ex Winnipeg Jets star, Patrik Laine was at it again in a Finnish newspaper last week >>> HERE.
I love Patrik but it looks like he has failed to grasp the concept that when he blabs to the Finnish media it actually finds it way back here in North America. He was blaming Torts for his poor season but maybe he should look in the mirror and stop blaming everybody else for his play. He had a run-in with one of his junior coaches, he complained about his usage in Winnipeg and kind of threw a fine hockey player like Bryan Little under the bus, he had an incident with assistant coach Brad Larsen (now the head coach) on the bench last season, and finally had his say about John Tortorella in a Finnish newspaper last week. I’m still a huge fan of Patrik Laine but I think it is time for him to SHUT HIS MOUTH and GROW UP.
15. Jets: Listening to outsiders that talk about the Winnipeg Jets just shows me how little they watch us play. The takes on our roster are hilarious. They overrate some of our players while underrating others even more than we do. One fairly well know outsider that I would consider an “A list” mainstream media member actually said Kyle Conner was a defensively responsible winger. I’ll just leave it at that.
In memory of my friend Darryl Manchulenko.
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Great thoughts as always.
They really boxed themselves in when they didn’t need to. There is no way an unprotected Wheeler gets taken. Copp should have been dealt before the lists went in if nothing else the to acquire some assets to use to get a dman from Seattle. And that Lowry signing was a bit troublesome too. Won’t blame the player the need security. But signing third line players at age 28 to five year deals is Benning like stupid.
Their loyalty to players and these extensions on the wrong side of the aging curve will catch up with them sooner rather than later with nothing to show for it.
Thank-you …. and thanks for reading Dave … loyalty is nice but it can be an albatross at times …. overpaying bottom 6 guys is what kills teams.